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Debian Founder Proposes New Type of Distro: "Componentized Linux"

Debian Founder Proposes New Type of Distro: "Componentized Linux"

Debian founder Ian Murdock has been blogging about a subject very dear to his heart.

In his blog - titled Toward a new kind of "Linux distribution" - Murdock acknowledges that that Linux distributions "have played a central role - arguably the central role - in the evolution of Linux from hobby project to mainstream technology" but points out that distros are "merely convenient packaging around a loosely knit collection of thousands of independently developed technologies" whereas their proprietary OS cousins "contain technologies developed (or licensed) by a single organization to fit into a single, integrated product."

This difference, Murdock, believes, is putting Linux at a disadvantage.

"For the commercial Linux-as-product distributors, it is a sensible strategy to portray their distributions as monolithic wholes, as this allows them to position the distributions as platforms unto themselves and, thus, pursue traditional OS business models based on locking users in to a platform (I've argued before this will be a losing strategy in the long run, but that's another topic).

However, for those who view Linux not as a product but as a platform on which to build their own products, the monolithic nature of the typical distribution is a particularly bad fit. The typical Linux-as-product distribution optimizes for breadth - because it is "one-size-fits-all", it needs to include a huge assortment of features and technologies to satisfy the widest possible audience, only a few of which may be important to any given project (and the few that are important will always vary). Ideally, for Linux-as-platform users, a distribution should optimize for depth, i.e., to excel in those few features and technologies important to the project at hand. "

In Murdock's view, a new kind of distribution is therefore needed to allow optimization for depth, a "componentized" distribution from which users may build platforms from the bottom up, including only the features and technologies their products require.

As co-founder, chairman, and chief strategist of Progeny, Murdock reveals in his blog that Progeny is building just such a distribution. "We are building it in the open as a community project in the hopes that others will be intrigued with the concept, collaborate with us on the component infrastructure and underlying open-source technologies (Anaconda, APT, etc.) and ultimately build their own components too," Murdock writes.

"If this sounds a lot like Debian," he adds, "that's because it is in many ways: the end result is more of a collection of software than a distribution, and we hope the open development process ends up fostering the same kind of inextricable developer community that has sprung up around Debian."

This "componentized Linux" does differ from Debian though in one important respect, explains Murdock:

"Importantly, the componentized Linux is a layer above an existing distribution - or, more properly, above an existing collection of packages. Our components are currently based on Debian sarge, and we are planning to support Fedora-based components as well in time. Our LSB 1.3-certified core runtime is available today. More components and a component-aware, Anaconda-based installation mechanism will be added in the coming weeks."

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Zoue 12/19/04 09:38:05 AM EST

Great!
Best Wishes.

muscle 03/23/04 01:37:37 AM EST

each debian package is hard to classify. good luck!

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 03/06/04 03:21:56 PM EST

Talking about Puzzles, and componentized Linux may be you can look at Tangram Linux: www.cogniware.net/tangram-linux (spanish version only)

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 03/06/04 03:21:34 PM EST

Talking about Puzzles, and componentized Linux may be you can look at Tangram Linux: www.cogniware.net/tangram-linux (spanish version only)

Alfonso E.M. 03/03/04 03:43:53 AM EST

We are now trying to build the pieces of the puzzle.

It's not easy to classify each debian package, assigning them to a block (Desktop, Servers, Entertainment...). It's not easy even to define the main blocks !

I wonder if a "democratic" system would do the work. Imagine a webpage where users could vote for a package to be included in a distro, or in a block... mmmm... curious, isn't it ?

;-)

Thorsten 03/02/04 02:34:41 PM EST

I see the advantages of components! That would make it easier to distribute e.g. server that are optimized for certain apps. e.g. Linux, Eclipse, MySQL, Tomcat, Cocoon -> You have a runtime, a server, a db, a publishing framework all in one and it is only 500 MB! Nice! I like the idea!
King regards

Debwatch 02/28/04 01:12:03 PM EST

You say he's the 'ian' in Debian but don't forget that it is his wife Debra who is the 'deb' in debian.

AlexanderYoshi 02/28/04 10:46:04 AM EST

I'd always felt that this is how Linux really works the best, rather than being a giant 1 gig hunk of software, I can pick and choose the parts I want to play with. This leads to lots of mistakes early on, but over time, you learn how to optimize and reevaluate what you need and where, with the end result of understanding your system that much better. So my question is: Was this a suggestion for Linux in general, or a suggestion for a new type of business model?

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